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Andrew

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on: September 01, 2019, 12:15:40 PM
Hi all

Hope you are all ok.

I make a website voluntarily for a group and just recently I have found out I am going to have to start paying web hosting fees for it so I can access it as I have managed to get it free for the past 15 years with our own domain name!  I am currently with Freeola.  The group can't afford to pay monthly so am looking at free options.

Can you recommend a free hosting website?  I have seen weebly has a free account but I don't know which website you would recommend?  With weebly for the free account you have to have the word weebly in the website address unfortunately.

Thank you if you can help.



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Reply #1 on: September 01, 2019, 03:41:06 PM
Forumotion?


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Reply #2 on: September 01, 2019, 05:05:11 PM
Or set up a Facebook page for your group. It may have ads but it's free. Mind, I do find FB to be a pain to use and, especially, navigate.


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Reply #3 on: September 01, 2019, 05:26:58 PM
Thank you I will have a look at forumotion with the people I volunteer with.  I don't think they were keen on Facebook as they didn't want to be overwhelmed with contacts.

Thank you.


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Reply #4 on: September 02, 2019, 10:43:33 AM
Or set up a Facebook page for your group. It may have ads but it's free. Mind, I do find FB to be a pain to use and, especially, navigate.

Correct, just set up a facebook page or if you want this to be amongst yourselves a group with settings that allow invites only


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Reply #5 on: September 02, 2019, 11:39:57 AM
Sorry I just realised that when I say group what I meant is I didn't want a forum.  The people I volunteer for run a mental health library and I make the website, I have made the website since 2005 but need to move it to a free hosting service as we can no longer get it free with Freeola.

I have looked at Weebly but didn't know if you could recommend any others?

Sorry for not being so clear in my first post.


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Reply #6 on: September 02, 2019, 12:37:35 PM
Tsohost are doing a deal at the moment of £1.20 per month for their basic web hosting package and it's not unusual to find those sort of packages.

Why don't you look for a grant to pay for your hosting?
Since you're looking for less than £100 per year you should be a certainty for a small grant from one of the thousands of charitable funds out there.


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Reply #7 on: September 03, 2019, 05:13:28 PM
I like the look of TSOhost as I can host my website and the website for the mental health library on it for £3.50 a month total and it includes personal email address which at the moment with my custom email address I cannot send emails from it unless I pay £2 per month with Freeola.  So as I am paying for my own website, the mental health library hosting cost will be covered by me and the people I volunteer for will pay the domain cost.

Have I understood this properly?  I am looking at the Startup plan hosting on TSOhost.

my website is .com and the library's website is .org on freeola.

So to move domains from Freeola I would have to pay transfer fee for each domain, renewal fee for each domain and hosting £3.50 per month for both websites combined?

Is this correct?

Sorry for all the questions I am new to this.

Thank you if you can advise.


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Reply #8 on: September 03, 2019, 09:10:30 PM
I'm not sure, but migration is normally built in.

You definitely need to look at charitable grants though, if your site description is accurate.
When I was doing my outdoor work with kids back in the 90's I got about £700 through different grants to pay for gear, like Ski Boots and GoreTex clothes.
Hosting is so cheap, you'd be mad not to apply for some grants to pay for it.


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Reply #9 on: September 05, 2019, 07:42:41 PM
OK, will have a think about what we are going to do and phone tsohost to confirm some of the details.

Thank you for all your help so far.


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Reply #10 on: September 06, 2019, 09:35:44 PM
Google are going to start flagging up all non secure websites as well, so you'd need to add the cost of an SSL Certificate on top of the hosting every year.


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Reply #11 on: September 06, 2019, 09:54:32 PM
Its just an excuse for them to sell SSL, warts and all


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Reply #12 on: September 19, 2019, 11:58:14 AM
I use Zero SSL which is free of charge. The only drawback is that you have to renew it every 90 days.
If you follow the instructions though, it easy to set up.
https://zerossl.com


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Reply #13 on: October 20, 2019, 08:15:25 PM
Hi

Thank you for all the help you have given me so far.

In the next week and a half I am planning to go with TSO Host for my own website, I just wanted to check this is a genuine website (https://www.tsohost.com/web-hosting) as I would like to pay by direct debit as they don't do automatic paypal payments and I only have a debit card and not a credit card for insurance.  I want to be sure that I am giving my details to a trustworthy company before I give my details out.

Thank you if you can advise.



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Reply #14 on: October 21, 2019, 09:18:22 AM
It's legit and that's who I'm with, also using Direct Debit.  :wink:


Andrew

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Reply #15 on: October 21, 2019, 11:39:14 AM
Thank you for that Wooster :)


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Reply #16 on: October 30, 2019, 08:43:20 PM
Hi

Just an update to say that I have successfully moved my personal website and email address to TSO Host now from Freeola.  We are going to apply for a grant for the mental health library website costs too to move that to TSO Host.

Thank you for all the help Wooster, Splinter, richietog and Glamdring.


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Reply #17 on: October 31, 2019, 03:57:00 PM
Best of luck with the grant mate.  :cool:
If you don't have any luck with one, keep plugging away with the others until you get some funding.

You should have lots of easily installed website options available through TSOhost where you can install and try on temp subdomains via Softaculous. If they don't do the job, it's simple to remove them.

Also remember that you can use different formats on your domain. i.e. You could have a fancy Wordpress front page on https://www.mydomain.com and a simpler SMF forum behind it on a subdomain i.e. https/www.mydomain. com/forum


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Reply #18 on: November 02, 2019, 07:35:30 AM
Thank you.

When my website was on Freeola I had a email form and it used http://freeola.com/cgi-bin/form_to_mail.php to send it but how do I do this on TSO Host or can you recommend a link with a free script please so I can get my e-mail form up and running again?


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Reply #19 on: November 02, 2019, 08:44:57 AM
Splinter or Richie might be the ones to ask mate.

If you use Wordpress as a front page then there a number of contact form plugins you can use: https://websitesetup.org/contact-form-wp-website/


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Reply #20 on: November 04, 2019, 07:10:34 PM
Thank you.

When my website was on Freeola I had a email form and it used http://freeola.com/cgi-bin/form_to_mail.php to send it but how do I do this on TSO Host or can you recommend a link with a free script please so I can get my e-mail form up and running again?
Is that for visitors to email you directly?
If so and if you're using WordPress, you should find that it's integral to whichever theme you choose, under the contact button.
I just add my Gmail address in the WP Dashboard anyway.


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Reply #21 on: November 05, 2019, 05:48:47 PM
Nope it is not Wordpress unfortunately, but thank you for the advice.


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Reply #22 on: November 06, 2019, 06:06:30 AM
What is it?


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Reply #23 on: November 06, 2019, 07:58:25 AM
Don't laugh but I make it with Frontpage 2000 program!  :smiley:  as it is cheap, it is a very basic website and gets the job done.  In the past I have used a email php script provided by freeola's website in the cgi-bin but I don't know if TSO Host has anything similar?

In future I will look at trying out wordpress but for the moment I am keeping it how it is.

Thank you for all your help so far.


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Reply #24 on: November 06, 2019, 09:58:57 AM
I still have my Fontpage 2000 CDs and used it years ago in my first attempts to build websites.
Whatever works for you :)