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Reply #175 on: May 25, 2019, 07:21:20 AM
Proportional Representation.

I'm forgetting though that the 2011 referendum wasn't for PR, but for AV (Alternative Vote), which is a bit half arsed.


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Reply #176 on: May 25, 2019, 10:33:48 AM
Proportional Representation.


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Reply #177 on: May 26, 2019, 10:32:24 PM
Half an hour in and it looks like Brexit has swept the board.


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Reply #178 on: May 27, 2019, 01:17:14 PM
Overall, the remain parties (if Labour can be classed as such) got more votes and have more MEP's, despite what Farage and the other hard line Brexiteers may claim.

I still think the underlying motivation and (global?) funding behind Brexit, is to keep the UK and its dependants status as tax havens for the wealthy.
It's just wrapped in a populist veneer.
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Reply #179 on: May 27, 2019, 02:35:10 PM
I was surprised by how many were fooled by Farage.


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Reply #180 on: May 27, 2019, 09:46:40 PM
I'm sure the Scottish/English border is in there somewhere.
If only it wasn't so difficult to spot....  :azn:


http://i68.tinypic.com/x6lhly.jpg

(I wonder how it would have looked if there was no SNP)  :question:
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Reply #181 on: May 27, 2019, 10:34:08 PM
Especially given how the northern isles voted.


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Reply #182 on: May 27, 2019, 10:53:24 PM
They've been Liberal for donkeys years, but I reckon it would be mostly orange and blue without the SNP.


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Reply #183 on: May 28, 2019, 12:55:05 AM
The irony is Farage says he wants out of the EU, yet he runs for the European election

I think I also heard its constitutional to exit out of Europe without a deal. So what the new PM would think of that, I don’t know

Personally think there should be a general election, but thinking after Farage won so many seats, is it wise to ask for one. I dare to think


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Reply #184 on: May 28, 2019, 09:00:28 AM
There should be one.
They might get a few MP's, but I don't think people would be stupid enough to elect a party without a manifesto into Government.

If Labour defintivley came out in favour of remaining we could end up with a Liberal/Labour coalition.


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Reply #185 on: June 04, 2019, 03:57:18 PM
I suppose if a General Election was held today, the Brexit Party would still get a large slice of the vote with or without a manifesto. It would be a single-issue election, no matter how hard parties tried to bring anything else in. What our delightful first-past-the-post system would give with multiple parties for remain and leave would be anyone's guess too.

No aspect of our domestic politics looks particularly fit for purpose these days. I think Brexit should be placed solely with a citizens jury of maybe 1,000 people over six to twelve months to take it out of the career MP's hands. We won't waste any more money than we are currently doing and could reach a properly informed decision. Westminster is hopelessly out of date and should be moved to a modern building, located outside of London, with its members elected through proportional representation.
Maybe in my children's lifetime...


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Reply #186 on: June 04, 2019, 05:19:03 PM
Another referendum is the only way to solve it in our best interests.
'We' voted to exit, so 'We' should be the ones to decide whether it's still in our best interests or not, given our representatives can't.


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Reply #187 on: June 04, 2019, 08:16:38 PM
Who's this offish person trying to wrangle their way into our NHS and corporations? I can't wait until someone has the guts to tell him to piss off


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Reply #188 on: June 04, 2019, 08:19:11 PM
Jeremy Hunt?


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Reply #189 on: June 04, 2019, 08:21:29 PM
Jeremy Hunt?

He's long gone as Health Secretary. I meant "oafish"


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Reply #190 on: June 04, 2019, 08:35:05 PM
No-one has done more damage to the NHS over the years than the 'everything is for sale' Tory party.
If they're priming you for privatisation, and the likes of Trump step in to take advantage, then you only have yourselves to blame.
Do you not?

If you want to protect the NHS, then you need to vote accordingly.
It's a no-brainer .
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Reply #191 on: June 04, 2019, 08:52:46 PM
Btw, I have to say his trip looks more like a Biohazard Incident than a State Visit.


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Reply #192 on: June 06, 2019, 05:45:49 PM
Proroguing is a new word that's come into play.

In essence, some want to to compel the Queen into suspending the democratic process of the UK in order to push through a policy that appears to have lost the majority of public support.
Republic of Britain anyone?


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Reply #193 on: June 06, 2019, 09:59:59 PM
Not for me, thanks.


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Reply #194 on: June 06, 2019, 10:04:37 PM
Ass kisser.  :grin:


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Reply #195 on: June 07, 2019, 12:01:59 PM
I thought we would be waking up a Brexit Party MP today. Mind you, I also thought that by-elections tended to have pretty high turnouts too but 48.4% looks quite poor to me.


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Reply #196 on: June 07, 2019, 03:04:03 PM
It often seems to me that we're so fed up with scheming politicians that we just can't be bothered. They're not worth our time. I'm delighted Farage lost.


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Reply #197 on: June 07, 2019, 03:49:05 PM


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Reply #198 on: June 07, 2019, 04:48:55 PM
If at first you don't succeed....  :wink:

I hope we'll see Alexander Boris de Pfeifel Johnson in court again.  :cool:


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Reply #199 on: June 07, 2019, 06:45:41 PM
Yup. That was most disappointing. He needs to be in court just for existing.